Comments on: Beginnings are improbable things http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/ Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:16:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: chuck http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-7 chuck Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:51:50 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-7 Hmm, looks like comments have a size limit. Hmm, looks like comments have a size limit.

]]> By: chuck http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-6 chuck Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:50:45 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-6 Hey, google finds it now. Did you catch this bit from the same issue. The C programming language is descended from the languages B and BCPL (short for Bucephalus, Alexander the Great's horse). It is a highly structured language. The following structured program, for example, is well-known to all C language programmers, and prints a well-known message at the terminal (try it!): #define TWENTYNINE 29 int ll, L1, l0, h_1,q,h1,h; main(){ for(putchar(putchar((h=7)*10+2)+TWENTYNINE); l0?putchar(l0):!h_1; putchar (ll),L1==2?ll=' ':0){ L1++==0?(ll=l0=54 Hey, google finds it now. Did you catch this bit from the same issue.

The C programming language is descended from the languages B and BCPL (short for Bucephalus, Alexander the Great’s horse). It is a highly structured language. The following structured program, for example, is well-known to all C language programmers, and prints a well-known message at the terminal (try it!):

#define TWENTYNINE 29
int ll, L1, l0, h_1,q,h1,h;
main(){
for(putchar(putchar((h=7)*10+2)+TWENTYNINE);
l0?putchar(l0):!h_1;
putchar (ll),L1==2?ll=’ ‘:0){
L1++==0?(ll=l0=54

]]> By: Charlie http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Charlie Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:39:06 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-5 Here's <a href="http://bit-player.org/about-the-author/publist" rel="nofollow">the guy</a>. <i>Computer Language</i> April 1986. Here’s the guy. Computer Language April 1986.

]]> By: chuck http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-4 chuck Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:30:48 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-4 <i>that there are business models around that basically say if we make everyone richer, it will make us richer.</i> I think some things are just headed towards commodity infrastruction, like roads are today. Probably operating systems, wordprocessors, spreadsheets, and programming languages are in that category. For such things community effort makes sense and it's nice to see that government, beyond providing copyright, was not needed to bring it about. <i>I think you’re probably thinking of p-code</i> That's it. What I thought JAVA brought to the table were JIT compilers and garbage collection. Speaking of FORTH, there was a wonderful Kafka pastiche published in Computer Languages in an April fool's issue way back when titled <i>My Life as a FORTH Interpreter</i>, or some such. It was pretty accurate and wonderfully done. I've been looking for a copy ever since I lost the magazine. that there are business models around that basically say if we make everyone richer, it will make us richer.

I think some things are just headed towards commodity infrastruction, like roads are today. Probably operating systems, wordprocessors, spreadsheets, and programming languages are in that category. For such things community effort makes sense and it’s nice to see that government, beyond providing copyright, was not needed to bring it about.

I think you’re probably thinking of p-code

That’s it. What I thought JAVA brought to the table were JIT compilers and garbage collection.
Speaking of FORTH, there was a wonderful Kafka pastiche published in Computer Languages in an April fool’s issue way back when titled My Life as a FORTH Interpreter, or some such. It was pretty accurate and wonderfully done. I’ve been looking for a copy ever since I lost the magazine.

]]> By: Charlie http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Charlie Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:41:30 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-3 Yup. (I think you're probably thinking of p-code, although forth's threaded interpretive model could be thought of as a sort of virtual machine as well. And Fred Brooks and Gerrit Blaauw were building machine interpreters in, of all thing, APL. And of course the PCC portable C compiler worked against a virtual stack-based machine too.) But what I think is interesting is the other aspect --- that there are business models around that basically say if we make everyone richer, it will make us richer. BTW, you get official first post <i>ever</i>. Yup. (I think you’re probably thinking of p-code, although forth’s threaded interpretive model could be thought of as a sort of virtual machine as well. And Fred Brooks and Gerrit Blaauw were building machine interpreters in, of all thing, APL. And of course the PCC portable C compiler worked against a virtual stack-based machine too.) But what I think is interesting is the other aspect — that there are business models around that basically say if we make everyone richer, it will make us richer.

BTW, you get official first post ever.

]]> By: chuck http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2007/01/29/beginnings-are-improbable-things/comment-page-1/#comment-2 chuck Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:34:50 +0000 http://www.explorations.chasrmartin.com/?p=3#comment-2 Hope for good things here. BTW, Python was out 4 years before JAVA, see this neat <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_programming_languages" rel="nofollow">timeline</a>. And Basic and FORTH were interpreted and there was a "universal" byte code whose name I can't recall that enjoyed a short vogue back in the day. The byte code was too slow for the hardware of the time and never got anywhere. Hope for good things here.

BTW, Python was out 4 years before JAVA, see this neat timeline. And Basic and FORTH were interpreted and there was a “universal” byte code whose name I can’t recall that enjoyed a short vogue back in the day. The byte code was too slow for the hardware of the time and never got anywhere.

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